To Parents: Why I was motivated to save when young and a 4 step guide to kickstart for your child

A friend asked me how do you teach kids about money. I don’t have kids, so this is not something that crossed my mind. I read a fair bit on the subject, but I do not just want to provide a list of to dos and do not dos.

So I tried to deconstruct, how is it I got to this point, and how as a child, what influenced me to have rather sound money relationship.

My parents didn’t have a lot of money when I grew up. We had enough, but we were rather lucky that due to  some string of events, they manage to make me conscious about money.

If I were to think of why I would continue to save money, I place a lot of weight on the motivation of meaningful savings accumulated and the consistent action of going to the bank to put money away.

The motivation of meaningful interest on bank savings

This is my old bank passbook. In the old days, we didn’t have the internet. If you want to deposit money you need to go to the bank. This was around when I was about 5 to 15 years old.

My mother deposit some money into our joint account, before I even know what money was. The sum was not big, but later in life, I realize it wasn’t small either with our situation.

Since she trusted me to go to the nearby market by myself to update this pass book yearly at around the age of 12 or 13, I been looking forward to such a trip.

What motivated me was seeing the interest earned.

At that time, I probably don’t understand the power of compounding, what is percentage interest, or have developed my wealth formula yet.

At that time despite the deposit sum to be $3,000 or $5,000, the interest earned was rather significant for a kid. Now that I know how to calculate the percentage of interest the % earned is as follows:

  • 1987: 77 / 2500 = 3%
  • 1988:  126 / 3977 = 3.1%
  • 1989:  145 /4904 = 2.9%
  • 1990:  156 / 5130 = 3%
  • 1991: 212 / 5366 = 3.9%
  • 1992: 253 / 5628 = 4.4%
  • 1993: 135 / 3422 = 3.9%

When you are young and you start seeing hundred of dollar accumulate, you tend to look forward to it. Each trip is an anticipation of how much, by letting the money sit in there, it is able to earned.

It wasn’t the percentage it was the meaningful amount. As a kid, the amount of money in your world is rather small, $2, $5 and $50. When its $100++ it is meaningful.

The habit of consistent deposits

Seeing the interest earned was important, but what was also important was the act of getting me to consistently go to the bank, queued up and deposit money.

Back then OCBC had ran a very successful young savings program.

So when you deposit money and reach certain milestones, you get some nice gifts for kids.

Hindsight that was kinda lame, but hey as a kid, you think rather differently.

The consistent, repetitive exercise of deposit money, makes me think that depositing money was a norm, or something that was necessary.

Summary of Success factors

It was a success for me, not so much because my parents made me understand the importance of money, but through luck, the actions managed to motivate me with the right money values.

  1. Seeing Meaningful Returns Snowball:  I see small wins along the way. At that age they weren’t small amounts. The small wins keep me on track to do it. Even without a goal to save towards
  2. Habit of putting money away for Wealth: My parents got me to put money away to save, no matter the amount. Human beings like seeing figures go up or down. In this case, the repetition of putting money consistently quarter after quarter, year after year, makes it become the norm
  3. Create a relationship with building Wealth: Some parents think that the child is too young to handle money. I don’t think there is a thing called too young. What was successful was that from a young age, the parents weren’t talking to me about it (other than money was precious), but they accidentally built sound money habits since a very young age, and learn from living with money. Let them do it instead of helping them do it. Be wrong now rather than be wrong when they grow up.
  4. Understand Scarcity of Money: This was not talked about much, but I felt that what I remember vividly is money is infinite and you have to make choices.

Blueprint that let’s you get Started to mode your Child

I think you can do better than my parents. They had an accident with their children and the children turned out better than expected with how they handle money when they are older:

  1. Both child didn’t get into debt
  2. Both child put away money to build wealth
  3. Both child tries to make sound spending decisions
  4. And because of the above, there are less money stress that usually fractures the family relationship

Making simple but early decisions can create powerful after effects many years on.

1. Split the allowance into 3 Jars: Spend, Give, Save

You might need to provide more money for your child’s allowance but the values built should be worth it.

Ron Lieber in The Opposite of Spoiled explains this. Micheal Kitces have a good write up here.

Lieber suggests that when children are started with an allowance, they should be guided to split the money into three groups – one for Spending, one for Saving, and one for Giving – literally, by having three clear plastic containers for each. Younger children can simply split the allowance equally amongst the three containers. With older children, having a discussion around how much to allocate to each is particular part of the values-teaching opportunity. A “typical” weekly allowance might be $0.50 – $1 per year-of-age of the child, starting around kindergarten, and increased each year on the child’s birthday. (If you want to give somereward to children for work, over and above their allowance, Lieber tells the story of one parent who pays “extra” for children who spot additional/new problems and come up with solutions, as a form of teaching entrepreneurship.)

The Spend jar is, as implied, for the child to spend. Aside from setting certain items as forbidden (e.g., certain toys you just don’t want in your house, even if the child bought it themselves!), the idea of the spend jar is to give children the latitude to make their own spending decisions, even “bad” ones. Guiding children about their spending is an opportunity to distinguish between wants and needs. For older children, they can get even more flexibility; for instance, let a high-school-aged child have their entire clothes budget for the school year in a lump sum up front. Either they’ll learn to manage the money to make it last throughout the year and teach themselves a financial lesson, or they’ll mismanage the money and be stuck wearing their “old” fall clothes during the spring school season and learn perhaps an even better lesson about the consequences of mismanagement. Better to learn in the “controlled” environment of school, than after they graduate from college where the consequences of mistakes are more serious.

The Save jar is to teach children the virtue of saving, and the benefits of perseverance and patience in allowing the balance to grow. As Lieber notes, having the plastic “Save” container be clear is important for having the child be able to actually see the dollars increase (similarly, Lieber suggests that opening a bank account for the young children is less effective, because it makes the saving a less tangible lesson). As the Save container grows its balance, parents can help children formulate goals of what they’re saving up for, and then celebrate with them when the goal is reached and the purchase can be made. This is also an opportunity to teach kids about growing savings and compound interest – e.g., by paying them an interest rate on their Save jar. Just be careful that the compounding doesn’t get out of control!

The last container is the one for Giving, and is an opportunity to teach children about the value of generosity and giving to those less fortunate. Helping children decide what charitable need or cause to give to also provides teaching opportunities, and Lieber notes that many charities will work with parents to help children who are going to do their giving in person – so you can take the child in to the facility, from a pet shelter to a homeless shelter, and let them see the impact of their giving.

2. Monthly or Bi-Monthly Deposit the Money from the Save Jar into a bank account

As parents, do not save the hassle and help your children deposit the money. Banks are set up differently nowadays. However, you can still bring them to the bank kiosk or the physical bank and let them participate in depositing the money that they have accumulated in the Save Jar.

This way they will build up a saving habit.

3. Kick start a Wealth Machine for them and review the Wealth Machine on an annual basis

Gone are the days where normal (note: not fixed deposit) interest is 3 to 4%. Current interest is like 0.25%. The interest yearly will not be meaningful enough to make an impact on the child.

However, there are other wealth building assets that can replace this.

They can be:

  1. An STI ETF
  2. The Singapore Savings Bond (SSB)
  3. A 5% dividend yielding Real Estate Investment Trust (check my Dividend Stock Tracker)

A note is that these wealth building assets can be volatile (except for the Singapore Savings Bond), so you might suffer capital loss in the short run. This in itself can be a lesson for the child as well!

You might need to seed $5,000 in one of these instruments and review with the child on an annual basis. This is a manageable time frame to teach the child that the value of the asset changes from time to time, but that should not affect the asset.

It allows the child to see the interest/coupons/dividends earned accumulate.

To review, you might need a spreadsheet to track the asset. You can make use of the stock portfolio tracker that I created. You can learn more about it and get it here.

4. When your savings compound

The last ingredient in the child’s prep, is to show him or her that, while putting money to savings is good, if the savings can compound at a greater rate of return, the eventual goal can be very substantial.

It might be enough to motivate him or her to work towards it.

The following table is a good start of how a 15 year old, who kick started some savings allowance from summer jobs and parents, then from putting away part of his or her take home pay can accumulate different amount of wealth at the end of 45 years old.

(note: if you would like the following spreadsheet, you can find it here. Go to File > Make a copy and play around with it)

While it is good to save, growing at different rates provide different results.

Summary

I hope I have leave everyone something to at least get started. The problem with sticking to a plan depends much on various factors. Some parents force things on us, while some take the pains to explain everything.

I prefer to see if we can keep things simple, make it part of the daily life, provide enough facts and data for him or her to become wise about money.

What lessons do you learn from deconstructing your child hood relationship with money, or in your experience teaching your kids about money? Do share with us.
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Trusting Analyst and Management Outlooks – Hercules Offshore Case Study

I was trying to find some data points for looking through some of the oil and gas companies, just to assess how they are looking. Then i chanced upon this JP Morgan high yield and leveraged finance conference presentation slides of Hercules Offshore.

You can view the slides here.

This was in February 2014, which is a year and a half  ago. The offshore driller sought to provide some data points for the past few years on the outlook of the oil and gas industry, their utilization rates, revenue back log, the international rig demand and supply since 2004, the day rates by regions.

Looks to me they build up a fair bit of orders, just like how Keppel corp would report it. However, you do observe that there are periods of lull demands  in the past in 2010.

This slide is powerful to show that forward looking demand remains bright, since customers are chartering the rigs at above market price and charters are tied in for 5 years. This is important for a company that is leverage at 50% net debt to asset, which almost feels like Cityspring and SP Ausnet.

This presentation slides seems to be provided somewhere in the time frame below.

The sell side promotes the story so that their clients with the vested interest can sell.

It is challenging if you are basing investing solely on analyst calls, analyst reports, thinking they are the professionals and better than you. The data is good, but you have to do your own form of interpretations.

It is challenging also if you are like me a new investor, who have not much competency of living in a period of an oil price rut.

The company, which primarily contracts jackups in the shallow waters of the Gulf of Mexico,  saw a dramatic pullback in domestic offshore activity as it operated fewer rigs, for less time and at a deeper discount to customers than the same time a year ago. Its average revenue per rig per day day plunged to $92,538 from $108,237 in the second quarter of last year.

“We expect the Gulf of Mexico to be a tough market throughout 2015,” Rynd said.

Hercules saw an even bigger hit internationally, with average per rig revenue plummeting from $71.7 million to $17.5 million.

Although Hercules saw its second quarter revenue collapse by more than two-thirds, from $243 million to $79 million from the same time last year, the company was able to alleviate some of the pain by aggressively cutting costs. The company slashed its recurring operating expenses in half from the same time last year and 25 percent compared to the first quarter, said Troy Carson, senior vice president and chief financial officer.

To save money, Hercules laid off 1,800 employees in recent months and sold off six cold-stacked rigs. The company is also deferring maintenance and repairs where it can without compromising safety, Carson said. – Story here.

Hercules Offshore Inc., an offshore oil field services company, will declare bankruptcy next month as part of a major financial restructuring plan to wipe out its $1.2 billion in debt.

It is also interesting that in a presentation that provides assurances for a company that is cyclical, there is a lack of slides talking more of how they manage their cash flows during recent times.

And perhaps it is something investors can look at more when reading some of the narratives from the oil and gas companies.

The lesson learn here for the wealth builders prospecting these businesses is that cash flow, based very much on the duration and the rates the charters is lock in at, can see wild fluctuations in earnings and cash flows. You can’t freaking use the “if this year the earnings are like that, I append a 10% growth to earnings next year” kind of estimation and based your investing thesis on that.

There are more ways listening to the noise out there can destroy wealth rather than build it. You can see more of these case studies here.

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