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		<title>By: Drizzt</title>
		<link>http://www.investmentmoats.com/investment-advice/insurance-philosophy/comment-page-1/#comment-45398</link>
		<dc:creator>Drizzt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi max, well i havent had the time for deep thoughts but i take it you are asking from a very alternative view and as such i will try to answer you as best that i could.

the present value of the claims is higher if you make a claim early in the stage of the policy. that is to say if you cliam at 60 years old your 100k will defo be much less than your 100k when you cliam it at 30 years old.

to get the amount at present value you can use the annuity formula to calculate your yearly premiums and approximate them to present value. also take your total claims (sum assured + cash value of whole life policy) and approximate them to present value. subtract the latter by the former and you have a comparison.

hope i get that correctly.

best regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi max, well i havent had the time for deep thoughts but i take it you are asking from a very alternative view and as such i will try to answer you as best that i could.</p>
<p>the present value of the claims is higher if you make a claim early in the stage of the policy. that is to say if you cliam at 60 years old your 100k will defo be much less than your 100k when you cliam it at 30 years old.</p>
<p>to get the amount at present value you can use the annuity formula to calculate your yearly premiums and approximate them to present value. also take your total claims (sum assured + cash value of whole life policy) and approximate them to present value. subtract the latter by the former and you have a comparison.</p>
<p>hope i get that correctly.</p>
<p>best regards.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.investmentmoats.com/investment-advice/insurance-philosophy/comment-page-1/#comment-45375</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Which is to say, assuming you have a “AIA S$ MoneyBack Protector 25″ with a 25yr policy which you have a $100k claim on death. What if a death occurs to the insured, let’s say on the 12th year of the policy? Then the “current-value” of monies paid out on that 12th year would be a good gamble? I’m not clear on how to work the sums out but i’m quite certain that down the road, as the policy reaches maturity, the amount paid out on death would have significant “current-value” on the year a claim is made, assuming inflation remains a constant at 3%.&quot;

I do apologise. What i meant to ask was &quot;as the policy reaches maturity, the amount paid out on death would have significantly LESS “current-value” on the year a claim is made, assuming inflation remains a constant at 3%. And the depreciating value would be compounded year on year?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Which is to say, assuming you have a “AIA S$ MoneyBack Protector 25″ with a 25yr policy which you have a $100k claim on death. What if a death occurs to the insured, let’s say on the 12th year of the policy? Then the “current-value” of monies paid out on that 12th year would be a good gamble? I’m not clear on how to work the sums out but i’m quite certain that down the road, as the policy reaches maturity, the amount paid out on death would have significant “current-value” on the year a claim is made, assuming inflation remains a constant at 3%.&#8221;</p>
<p>I do apologise. What i meant to ask was &#8220;as the policy reaches maturity, the amount paid out on death would have significantly LESS “current-value” on the year a claim is made, assuming inflation remains a constant at 3%. And the depreciating value would be compounded year on year?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While i may not understand the entirety of your detailed calculations, i believe i do understand and agree with your reasoning. It&#039;s extremely insightful. Your arguments definitely hold merits and they&#039;re points that i haven&#039;t even begin to ponder myself. 

There&#039;s a point that I would wish to seek your opinion and other readers as well. Although your reasoning of current value of monies vs future monies that are refunded to us either barely match up, or not at all(more often than not, to the insured disadvantage), how about the subject on the perennial &quot;what-if&quot;, which is what insurance is all about. 

Which is to say, assuming you have a &quot;AIA S$ MoneyBack Protector 25&quot; with a 25yr policy which you have a $100k claim on death. What if a death occurs to the insured, let&#039;s say on the 12th year of the policy? Then the &quot;current-value&quot; of monies paid out on that 12th year would be a good gamble? I&#039;m not clear on how to work the sums out but i&#039;m quite certain that down the road, as the policy reaches maturity, the amount paid out on death would have significant &quot;current-value&quot; on the year a claim is made, assuming inflation remains a constant at 3%. 

So the gamble which you mentioned at the start of your article would really pay out at the earlier stages of the policy. Of course that is not what we hope for (no one hopes to buy a policy so as to die earlier to make that claim). If the calculation of annual inflation is taken into context, then wouldn&#039;t a long drawn out policy be unbeneficial, compared to investments in let&#039;s say our Government bonds?

I would really love to hear from you on your thoughts about this to learn more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While i may not understand the entirety of your detailed calculations, i believe i do understand and agree with your reasoning. It&#8217;s extremely insightful. Your arguments definitely hold merits and they&#8217;re points that i haven&#8217;t even begin to ponder myself. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a point that I would wish to seek your opinion and other readers as well. Although your reasoning of current value of monies vs future monies that are refunded to us either barely match up, or not at all(more often than not, to the insured disadvantage), how about the subject on the perennial &#8220;what-if&#8221;, which is what insurance is all about. </p>
<p>Which is to say, assuming you have a &#8220;AIA S$ MoneyBack Protector 25&#8243; with a 25yr policy which you have a $100k claim on death. What if a death occurs to the insured, let&#8217;s say on the 12th year of the policy? Then the &#8220;current-value&#8221; of monies paid out on that 12th year would be a good gamble? I&#8217;m not clear on how to work the sums out but i&#8217;m quite certain that down the road, as the policy reaches maturity, the amount paid out on death would have significant &#8220;current-value&#8221; on the year a claim is made, assuming inflation remains a constant at 3%. </p>
<p>So the gamble which you mentioned at the start of your article would really pay out at the earlier stages of the policy. Of course that is not what we hope for (no one hopes to buy a policy so as to die earlier to make that claim). If the calculation of annual inflation is taken into context, then wouldn&#8217;t a long drawn out policy be unbeneficial, compared to investments in let&#8217;s say our Government bonds?</p>
<p>I would really love to hear from you on your thoughts about this to learn more.</p>
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		<title>By: Drizzt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drizzt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm shawn i wonder if that is the case. perhaps its really something that we will eventually end up paying for a large part of our life yet we won&#039;t get to reap its benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm shawn i wonder if that is the case. perhaps its really something that we will eventually end up paying for a large part of our life yet we won&#8217;t get to reap its benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very concised and educational, although I agree that DI is still in unclear waters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very concised and educational, although I agree that DI is still in unclear waters.</p>
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		<title>By: Whole Life vs Term Insurance @Investment Moats &#124; Investment Moats - Stock Market Investing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whole Life vs Term Insurance @Investment Moats &#124; Investment Moats - Stock Market Investing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 02:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] saw this week from his blog is on the subject of buy term and invest the difference. Readers of my insurance philosophy would know well that i do practice buy term and invest the difference. Here i shall leave you with [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Drizzt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drizzt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Leo for visiting.

do take note that such philosophy changes, as do the insurance industry changes. We do not know what new products that comes along will be able to alleviate concerns of term, concerns of ILPs and concerns of Whole Life.

Government policies will also change this. Just like the recent Annuity deal (which i think is very detrimental), it could greatly affect your decisions. That is why you see I do have a limited whole life, though its not a large proportion.

regards,

  Drizzt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Leo for visiting.</p>
<p>do take note that such philosophy changes, as do the insurance industry changes. We do not know what new products that comes along will be able to alleviate concerns of term, concerns of ILPs and concerns of Whole Life.</p>
<p>Government policies will also change this. Just like the recent Annuity deal (which i think is very detrimental), it could greatly affect your decisions. That is why you see I do have a limited whole life, though its not a large proportion.</p>
<p>regards,</p>
<p>  Drizzt</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, came across your site from Vr-Zone Forum. I&#039;m a pretty new life planner from Great Eastern and I think you have provided very good insights for those that have no knowledge or wish to know more about how insurance can aid them in their life planning.

I do agree too that buy term and invest the rest will be the most viable and practical option to the general public comparing to traditional life policies.

Well great article all in all =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, came across your site from Vr-Zone Forum. I&#8217;m a pretty new life planner from Great Eastern and I think you have provided very good insights for those that have no knowledge or wish to know more about how insurance can aid them in their life planning.</p>
<p>I do agree too that buy term and invest the rest will be the most viable and practical option to the general public comparing to traditional life policies.</p>
<p>Well great article all in all =)</p>
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		<title>By: Endowments and Saving Plans &#124; Investment Moats - Stock Market Investing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Endowments and Saving Plans &#124; Investment Moats - Stock Market Investing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my previous article on my insurance philosophy, I have written extensively on some of these. Do take a look to get a better [...]</description>
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		<title>By: drizzt</title>
		<link>http://www.investmentmoats.com/investment-advice/insurance-philosophy/comment-page-1/#comment-17609</link>
		<dc:creator>drizzt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 05:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for reading, Jon. 

I know its lengthy, but i couldn&#039;t be bothered to break it up to another or write another day. Its kinda tiring.

Regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for reading, Jon. </p>
<p>I know its lengthy, but i couldn&#8217;t be bothered to break it up to another or write another day. Its kinda tiring.</p>
<p>Regards.</p>
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