Skip to Content

Can your active investing skills be transferred to family members?

There are days when you get to a certain age, things you used to not think about starts surfacing.

Planning for life after an investor pass away does not get explored often enough. 

Lee Chin Wai writes a very good blog at Boring Investor. Doesn’t delve deep into individual active management stuff but from a building  wealth basis, it’s a very good blog to follow. You can tell he is a good writer and a clear thinker.

In his recent articles, he explores this dilemma and still looking for answers.

One may argue that regular dividends and rental income require minimal efforts to achieve. However, one still has to watch over the performance of the companies to make sure that the regular dividends can continue uninterrupted.

History is full of examples of excellent, high dividend-paying companies that have failed. Rental income also requires one to look for new tenants when the lease expires and to carry out repairs to upkeep the property. So, efforts are required to maintain the regular income.

Nevertheless, this post is not to belittle the financial independence that some have achieved. Being financially free is a great achievement that takes many years of hard work and financial prudence to achieve. Rather, this post is to allow one to ponder how much one’s hard-won financial independence is dependent on one’s health.

If one’s financial independence is not dependent on one’s health, then that financial independence could also be transferred to one’s loved ones so that they too could be financially free.

In the paths we take to accumulate wealth, it seldom occurs to you that most of the time it is an entrepreneurship, that you as the sole proprietor can’t be sick as you are the only one to plan, manage and execute as well as monitor and control your wealth. (Read the passive nature of different wealth building techniques)

And it seems more pronounced on a local context that good companies for 5 years may not be well operated after that.

It would mean that the person taking over the active management needs to have that same level of competency.

Its achievable but it will require some effort.

Andrew Hallam encounter this problem around a few years near my current age, when he was diagnosed with cancer.

He wrote about it here:

When I was diagnosed with cancer, my wife and I had a relatively complex investing portfolio shaped by my investing enthusiasm. But she wasn’t interested in the stock market. If I did have a magic formula for investing (something I seriously doubt) she wasn’t keen on learning it.

Recognizing that she might outlive me, I sold $700,000 worth of individual stocks and added the proceeds to the exchange-traded index funds I already owned. Then I taught her how to rebalance the portfolio in a few minutes once a year. If I die before my wife, I’ll rest better knowing that she won’t be paying somebody to underperform the market.

Three years after my surgery, my MRI scans continue to look clear. My weight has (finally) climbed back to its pre-surgical level and my strength is back. I can break a five-minute mile, do 33 pull-ups and dispassionately rebalance a portfolio of index funds. Following a couple of evidence-based strategies for health and money, I’m hoping for longevity – and bucket loads of wealth.

A trader can probably be the best trader in the world and accumulated 1 mil. When unforeseen circumstances struck, would the family member have that competency to carry on building wealth further?

In case you think 1 mil is a lot, inflation is still carrying on and you will need to manage it well to keep your spending power.

There is probably 30 years of management still required and many retirees do spend part of their time fretting how to get the necessary yield, which companies fails to live up to the requirements and which to rotate into in a time when their brain starts slowing down massively.

Perhaps that is why variable annuity plans are getting so popular to resolve this issue.

It gets worse when your spouse or family members are really bad money managers for starters and would want nothing to do with calculation.

There probably needs some proven methods that are truly passive in nature.

Kyith

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.

victortancheongwee34

Tuesday 3rd of December 2013

Hi Kyith

I think your here is more realistic. I have read some who boasted their div to be 75k, and tg 120k for his reit. Base on my cal, of reit yield at 6.7% today, his portfolio is worth some 1m over. And base on my calculation projected back, it doesn't look like this guy is self make. Either he bluff or his investment amount he got is mostly inherited like me. How on earth a graduated now 40 have that sum way back?

Here is my assumption of my calculation projected backward...... Said this guy is smart, he catch the bottom in 2009 low, I check reit yield was some 19%. and base on the distribution given slight variation over the past 4 yrs, base on his div of 75k...the invested sum have to be close to 400K..A graduate at 35( minus 5 yrs, since he said to be 40) can save that amount of money is a question over my mind, suppose he started work at 26. Save that he is a Einstein material. Possible?

My conclusion is that this guy is half truth. And I am not surprise that his site , there are many advertisement. These site are created to make money out of these advertisement. Advertiser love these site who balloon and make noises about mission impossible that attract lot of readers. Reader here please be careful, don't be taken in, unless he can show his track record as proof. I do not think he can., will claim this is confidential lah.

What you say?

I love yours honestly, you talk sense. But I do read his, only to absorb those I think is realistic..I means take it with a pinch of salt like they say.

Thanks for your reading.

victor

victortancheongwee34

Tuesday 3rd of December 2013

To achieve a saving of 400K, he would have to save $2000 monthly for 9 yrs to age 35 from 26, and provided his return is 15% yearly...He is a genius if it is true. Head hunter will be after him for sure. To be high flying CEO of some big corporation.

Kyith

Tuesday 3rd of December 2013

Ha Ha, can't comment much there. Folks say i kinda rant more than i should but in all essence advertising may not be that much to make out to be.

We all want to catch the bottom train and that some figures are rather hard to achieve. You wonder whether they are meant to inspire or for other purpose but there are times when we require some blueprint or direction put in front of us.

At some time we focus on honing our competency, what is important, once we finish getting inspired. to be able to sink in 400k is no mean feat as well. There are folks who are unable to see past that.

victortancheongwee34

Tuesday 3rd of December 2013

At least, I am the worse. My wife is illiterate, Primary 6, know nothing at all. My son is just 19, so I tell him where I put my money, my password, my bank acc. and etc, all written down. That is all I can do. Mine is mostly in reit. At least. I hope my son can and interest to learn investing and out do me, so by another 20 to 30 yrs time, my wife can get ready to go over there to join me. Amen..Om me tofu.

Kyith

Tuesday 3rd of December 2013

its important to seed them probably. ask the question to them how do they expect to build wealth. buy andrew hallam's book and pass it to them. go through with them some important concepts. of course you may need to read the books as well

victortancheongwee34

Tuesday 3rd of December 2013

I just read again the passage again. That guy can do 33 pull ups is no cancer. I cannot even do 3 !!!..I think I have got AIDS. lol

Chin Wai Lee

Tuesday 3rd of December 2013

Hi Kyith,

Thanks for your compliments. And thanks for sharing Andrew Hallam's article. I can certainly relate to his experience.

Rgds, Chin Wai

Chin Wai Lee

Tuesday 3rd of December 2013

Hi Kyith,

Thanks for your compliments. And thanks for sharing Andrew Hallam's article. I can certainly relate to his experience.

Rgds, Chin Wai

Chin Wai Lee

Tuesday 3rd of December 2013

Hi Kyith,

Thanks for your compliments. And thanks for sharing Andrew Hallam's article. I can certainly relate to his experience.

Rgds, Chin Wai

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.